Well Kit, once again, agreed. XBox had its potential, but the only reason why any non-halo obsesed person would buy it now is to mod it and run a nice and cheap (for PC standarts) little Linux machine on their Home Theater System.

Great arguement. I agree completely, and u phrased that arguement really well. Its funny how microsoft is making a computer, putting it in a fancy green and black box, calling it a console, and marketing it just to alienate/monopolize/piss off sony, nintendo, and their fans.

But on a even better note: Halo. I have played this game, and really, I will say it looks nice, I will say it controls well, the vehicles are pretty cool, but theres nothing particularly amazing that sets it apart from other shooters. Well, other than microsoft's disgustingly frequent advertisements. Really I dont see the big deal. Its a blast to play, but so are a lotta other shooters. Halo 2 just annoys me. The title itself is where it begins to annoy me. Becuase it really isnt "2". Its just an expansion pack. And not even a very creative one. Slightly better graphics, new weapons, new vehicles. Still fun, but absolutely nothing that can make it worth buying 2 games. I can download all the FREE mods i want for half life or half life 2 that will give me new weapons, gameplay, vehicles, or whatever the hell i want. Seriously, the only reason Halo is as popular as it is is because Microsoft has too much money for their own good.

And to add to all of that, people need to realize that the x-box did not invent online play, nor do anything amazing with it. Online games have been around since the 90s, and about 90% are completely FREE to play online. No stupid monthly charge, no X-box live thing that you have to go through, just connect directly to the internet/other people. The ps2, although im not a fan of it, doesn't piss me off as much in that reguard. Sony just releases the console and some hardware, and lets everyone (programmers and players) do what they want. You probably pay some money for something that lets you hook it up, and your done. Developers dont have to go through some "playstation live" hub, they can set up online stuff however they want. And the players dont need to be spoon fed with a user interface like xbox live, they can just get gaming.

The X-box is not a bad console, but I definately agree that you could get the same thing with a computer (you can install f****** windows xp on an Xbox).

Kit, while you may be basically right about that, I have no desire to play the xbox or to have an xbox for the online component. I got an xbox, (which you are well aware of) for the purpose of having fun with people who are sitting in the same room as me. While this may be true for PS2, not many of the PS2 games are known of, and, quite frankly, there are many good xbox multiplayer games that i will get, but NOT for the online play. I get iot to play with my friends, whenever i feel like it.

I agree with Andrew. Unlike Halflife, and as usual Micro$oft business, they introduce new bugs and make up a lot of fake "hype" so that everyone will run to get a copy from the stores. Just like Windows. Remeber the good old days of computer crashes? Today we are using "better" versions of Windows with more warez than ever installed on them. Windows even contains programs which I have in Windows 3.1!!!

Innovation? Yeah. Right. ;-)

please note that bungie was developing halo as a macintosh project, when microsoft said "Hey! that looks really good! lets buy it!"